Your loved ones in spirit are always around you. Deb gives a reading to a Spirited Straight Talk listener and shares much needed healing messages from her dad.

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Welcome to spirited straight talk the ultimate podcast for anyone who is ready to live a life with intention and help from spirit. I am your host of shepherd, spiritual teacher meeting and author helping you open up to the whole enchilada or like, we like to say the soul in Jalonda so you can truly make your soul rise. So let's go. This is Jeff Shepherd. Welcome to spirited straight talk. I'm here with my partner in crime. Dana. I'm so excited about this podcast today, because this is the first time we're doing an actual reading, which I know people come to me for, you know, getting the answers and hearing from their loved ones.

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And Amanda joined our launch party and her name was drawn for this reading. Yes. Yes. We want to tell everybody too how I get messages and how this works for me. And Dan really explains it very well. So do you want to kind of share tips? Well, so first of all, you have, you had a reading with Deb before Amanda. I have. Okay. So this is your first time. She's our Virgin. So we just basically randomly chose your name from a drawing the day of the podcast launch. And you, I think were really at indicated to me that you were really going through a hard time, right after you were chosen.

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So it was really great that you, you were chosen as the winners universe knew, right? Yes they did. And we always like to share a little bit with every reading a little bit about how Deb gets her messages. And since this is the first time on spirited straight talk that she's doing a reading, it would be really interesting for everyone to hear how she receives the messages she gets. You may have heard this when you were on live with her on the lodge. Basically it's a little bit, I like to explain it a little bit. Like it's communicating underwater, where everything is in symbols and feelings and emotions. And Deb has the ability to use all six of her senses as she's communicating with the other side.

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So they're able to bring forward memories of hers that give her the ability to communicate and interpret messages that they're sending her. She's also an impact. So she's going to feel emotions. She's going to feel pain. Sometimes the first thing she gets is whether they're older or younger male or female, but she feels that inside of her body. And sometimes they make her feel how they crossed over, or if they were ill, what sort of illness they have had by making her feel that in her body, they'll also have her smell, things, taste, things, hear things. So she may hear somebody's favorite song. She may taste something like somebody's favorite alcoholic drink, or favorite cookie.

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Or as long as that, she has a reference point for that, whatever they're showing her, she can interpret that and then share that message. Sometimes it takes a little while to figure out, but if you trust the process, the message does become clear. Also they will show her things a little bit like it's a movie playing inside of her head. So they'll show her things that way too, like a vision. And then she does have the ability to connect with any living soul or any soul that's crossed over. So it could be an animal that she connects with. Sometimes they will come through as validations for you because of the weird things that they bring forward. Maybe it's a pet that crossed crossover when you were a child, or maybe you buried your hamster in your backyard, or, you know, maybe you had a pet fish or something.

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They'll usually bring things like that forward as validation, but she can also connect with souls that are on the living plane as well. So sometimes they'll bring forward things that are currently happening in your life to prove to you that they're still with you. And so the, you know, without a doubt that it really is your loved one, communicating with her. One thing I always like to point out, well, they, they just keep in mind. They may bring through things that are currently happening. That's what I mean by, by saying that is something that's happening in your life right now. Let's say you injured your ankle or your knee recently. Sometimes they'll bring through weird stuff like that for you, as she's going through this information.

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Sometimes we have things that she has to interpret. Sometimes it's new symbols. Sometimes it's things that have one meaning for her, but another meaning for you. I always like to share this example because it was a really good example of how this works. She had a family here a while back that was having a reading and it was several family members. And the other side kept showing her the image of a Hunter, some of the Hunt's wild game. And she shared this with the family. And pretty quickly they realized that it was their son's friend who had recently crossed over and his name was Hunter. So that's an example of how it works sometimes. And then lastly, your job during this reading is being able to validate the information remembering who's come through or who's coming through.

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It's a little bit like a party going on in Deb's head. Sometimes you have several loved ones and she's already fidgeting.

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I know, I know they're here,

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But if you can imagine it's a little bit like a party going on in our head sometimes, and they don't clean up the mess when they leave. Yeah.

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Oh,

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So she can talk really, really fast sometimes. But if you're not getting something right away or you're not able to validate something right, right away, I always recommend ask a couple more questions because she's going to trust the other side, way more than she's going to trust our memory here. She's going to really just give you what they're, what they're telling her is what she's going to give you. And sometimes it's a little bit better to ask another question if it doesn't make sense yet, because we, we like to say, she's always right. It's just where everything else I'm wrong, but this definitely really, really good at this. Yeah. So also she will give you an opportunity to ask questions and she will give you an opportunity to ask for a loved one to step forward if they haven't yet, I asking for just a first name and their relationship to you.

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So the biggest thing since you've never had a reading before, the biggest thing I always recommend is just keep an open mind to the process. Keep an open mind to how the messages are coming through and keep an open mind to what Deb sharing with you. Because the, the purpose will reveal itself during the self with that. I'm going to just say, and Amanda, you know, I try to bring in humor. We're going to make it safe for you. My job is to make sure that this makes sense to you. So you, you just get to enjoy the ride too. Okay? Okay, great. Okay. Can you breathe for me? You're a little nervous. I am a little nervous. That's totally okay. It's totally normal. So I've had two people coming through right away. And again, they may not be recent passings, but one is the age of a father figure and the other one would be a male in your generation.

1 (7m 9s):
So this would be husband, brother, cousin, friend. Does that make sense? And was this an unexpected

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Def for him? The one in my generation, you know, I've had a couple,

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It feels like he has a sense of humor and he may have had a crush on you or you guys were like siblings, or I feel like there's just a close relationship. Does that

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Make sense? Yes, it does. Okay. He

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Is. He's looking down on you, which tells me that it was either taller or older or did you look up to him for certain things? Was he a big presence? He was a big presence. Yeah. Okay. So that's how he's coming through again. We have all these symbols. Is there also a father figure? That's past, yes. Okay. He's showing me, you know how you put your hands together and show you the heart. So I feel like you saying, I heart you, he's also feeling like he went way too young. Do you understand? Yes. And he's also saying I'm proud of you, but I'm also very sorry. Does those things make sense? Yes, they do. Okay. He's telling you that you've always been very independent and you've done things on your own, but he also feels like it's time for you to have help. And I'm assuming maybe this reading is a piece of that, but I also feel was there no closure with your dad's passing or was there some things that were left

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And said a lot? It was, there wasn't any closure and a lot of things left unsaid.

1 (8m 23s):
Okay. So he says that if you have questions now, he's, he's willing to answer. He doesn't feel like a religious man, but I also was, he kind of stubborn, very stubborn. Okay. Because he just feels like it was his way or the highway. And so sometimes he didn't see your viewpoint. And now that he's crossed over, he says, I get it now. And I'm really sorry that I made things more challenging. Did he have a lot more expectations from you or did he, because I don't feel like you really showed up as a father figure for you.

3 (8m 50s):
He did not show up as a father figure, even though he was very close to me and I loved him very much.

1 (8m 56s):
We did you feel like the parents sometimes? Yes. Okay. That's how he's kind of coming through. It's almost like you took care of him when he, and I feel like he needed you. And he's also feeling like in his death, I feel like either he didn't go kelp or he didn't take, I feel like he caused a little bit of his passing in the sense of his choices. Do you understand? Yes, he did. Okay. And he's telling you that he didn't want to be a burden, but I also feel like this man really was passionate and had a lot of love. I just like, he sometimes couldn't stay on the narrow path. Does your mom still alive? Are you having a hard time?

3 (9m 33s):
No, I'm not.

1 (9m 35s):
There's sh he's showing me a female that you're having a hard time with. Would this be a sibling or someone else? Maybe a sister-in-law. Okay. He just, he just, your dad was just doing this thing for knowledgement, but he says also your mom, I still feel that there's a worry for your mom. There's something to be worried about. And I don't like to give that kind of information, but is there a little COVID and there's so much going on, is there some things going on for your mom that are challenging?

3 (9m 58s):
I worry about her a lot. That might be what's coming through.

1 (10m 3s):
Okay. That makes more sense. And I just kind of gets it. You were the parent to both of these people, like, I guess like you were always the adult for these individuals at times. Yeah. Okay. Your dad's just really, he appreciate you. He is thankful for you. He feels that you work way too hard. And he says sometimes you're overly responsible, which tells me that maybe he, maybe he wasn't as responsible as you, but he just feels like you're the loyal person. You're the one that stands by everybody. You got you cover, you know, you're, you're, you're there to cover everyone else and support them. And he just feels like it's time for you to be taken care of. Does that make sense? It does. Okay. He's worried about what you eat.

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Do you eat weird stuff or

1 (10m 48s):
Way healthier than he ever did? Maybe that's what he's just teasing you because I'm like, okay, this is what we're talking about. Your dad feels like when he crossed over, he was a little disappointed that he went, but he also feels like he was sort of happy. I know that seems like an oxymoron kind of statement, but I kind of feel like he was relieved. Do you understand? Yes, I do. Okay. Was the served you, did you have a service for him? A small service. Not yet.

3 (11m 14s):
It's it's planned out though. He died this year? No, he died a year ago in August.

1 (11m 21s):
Okay. Because I keep seeing making it a small ceremony and don't, don't make it difficult for everyone. So that's what I thought maybe it was during COVID, but it just feels like, you know, you've already honored me. It's okay. Do what you need to do, but don't, don't spend a lot of extra is what I'm kind of feeling. Okay. Was he, was

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He cremated? Yes, he was.

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He's also saying I don't care what you do with the ashes. Does that make sense? Yes. Okay. It's it's I always feel like you really want to honor your dad and your dad's sort of like making it more for you. Like, you know, what do, what feels right? If people are giving you pressure, if it feels overwhelming, do what you feel is right. Like he doesn't want to cause any more pressure for you. Was your dad good at fixing cars?

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He was a carpenter by trade

1 (12m 7s):
I'm smelling like grease, like someone that fixed cars. So he was handy with his hands? Yes. Okay. Cause I'm just like he could fix things without going to school. Is what I'm kind of getting from him? Yes. Okay. How are you feeling?

3 (12m 21s):
I, I feel good. Okay. He

1 (12m 23s):
Just, he feels like he's worried about you. And I feel like the biggest thing I get is like a parent feels like you are taking care of everybody, but I know you also took care of him and he's sort of like you do too much. Does that make sense? It does. And it's true.

3 (12m 39s):
Okay. What do you want to ask your dad? Oh gosh.

1 (12m 44s):
Your grandma had just popped through. Hold on. Is your mom is your maternal grandmother passed?

3 (12m 49s):
So it would be my great grandmother. My maternal great-grandmother

1 (12m 52s):
Was she kind of a mother too? You know? Cause I'm getting an older female, not, not a mother's age, but an older, like an aunt. It could be a great aunt or a grandmother that felt like she had either. You have some similarities like her or she watched out for you or she did some things during the time that it kind of made a statement for you. Oh, are you married? I am married. Yes. Could this be an in-laws on his side?

3 (13m 20s):
His father, if, but it's a female presence.

1 (13m 23s):
This feels like a FIM, a very strong female. And I feel like her name maybe was an irony like Eileen or I Nez or Irene?

3 (13m 31s):
Irene. Irene. Yes. Who's this. So this was my grandma. Irene was a great grandmother. Oh wow. So she was in my life until I was about five years old.

1 (13m 46s):
Okay. The feeling I get is that she watches out for you. I feel like she was a strong woman and I feel like you're a strong woman and in her life wasn't always easy, but she figured it out. Does that make sense? Yes. Okay. And she said that she loved to cook for her family.

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So I'm getting

1 (14m 5s):
That. Food's a big thing. So I, Rena is also there and I feel like she sort of pays attention to you. So sometimes you feel like someone gives you those aha moments. It might be her.

3 (14m 15s):
Okay. And

1 (14m 16s):
She's rubbing her hands, which usually means that she did things with her hands or she had arthritis. So I don't know if you remember any of those things since you were so young. I don't. That's okay. You can ask a family member maybe. Yes, yes I can.

3 (14m 28s):
Who do you, what do you want to ask them? What I would really like to know is a little bit more guidance as to it is me. Who's always taking care of people and I'd like a little bit of guidance as to what I should be doing. You know, I get stuck in this pattern over and over again.

1 (14m 47s):
You know, we're doing a class on this right now about how to kind of change those patterns. I feel like you're a people pleaser and that you are thinking when you do these things, it's like, you feel like people need help. And really sometimes we enable them and I feel like sometimes you just don't say no. Does that make sense? Yes. Okay. So I'm going to give you a tool when someone reaches out and says, I really need some help. What you can say to them is, Oh, I'd really love to help you, but I have so much on my plate. I can help you next week. Normally by them, then they've already have something else in place, but I think it's learning how to say no and create those boundaries. And I don't think you're there yet. How can I ask your age? Amanda? I'm 40. Okay. So basically it's time to kind of have that self-love and make sure that you're important.

1 (15m 31s):
And I'm also seeing that you'll have a list of things to do, but you're always adding to it. And I'm kind of getting the fact like, just get rid of the list for a couple of weeks. Just like, okay, get a little disorganized. I have a feeling that no, the other things are not important. Stay in your routine. And I think you're in this kind of feeling of, I have to get everything accomplished because everything's on my shoulders and think about sometimes you, you know, if it doesn't get done, it doesn't get done. And I'm also putting, put on your calendar some time for you with some massage or hanging out with girlfriends. And I know the COVID is a little bit different, but we can figure that out, finding some ways to do some art or just come in, nurturing yourself.

1 (16m 14s):
But I don't feel like you're on your list. I'm not on my list. Okay. So I want you to remove like five things a day, make room for yourself. And even if I was going to get an ice cream or go read a chapter in a book, whatever it takes just to kind of that self love, and you're going to start really wanting that. And I feel like you carry a lot of guilt if you're not taking care of things and getting things done, we raised Catholic. Yes. Okay. The first thing we have to do is help you get rid of that guilt. Okay? Okay. Okay. So, you know, there's, there's no hell and you're not, you're a good person, so there's no bad place, but really think about is guilt serving you. And I always say guilt and shame are low vibrations in love and gratitude are high ones and women.

1 (16m 58s):
We have a tendency to always be those nurturers and caregivers. And I just feel like that's, that's kinda like your belief system. You don't believe that you can be taken care of by you or the other thing I get is if you don't take care of something or someone, it will fall apart. So I feel like you're taking responsibility. If a bad things happen to others, does that resonate in the asset dies. Okay. So our past always affects our future. And what I'm getting is that this guilt that you have and taking care of everybody is truly into your core. And it's looking to say, you know what? I can be responsible for me, but I can't take care of everybody else, but I can be there. I just, that they have their own choices and their own journey.

1 (17m 38s):
And at some point you, you may want to join one of our classes, but you know, we teach this, giving yourself permission to be a priority and not have to take care of everybody. Okay? So this is what I tell. I want to make sure I can say it all can say whatever you want to teach people. This is, I tell you to stop breastfeeding. And which that means it's just put your titties back in the bra. That is your visual. Now what you taught ties away, but it really helps you understand that you, we all have a journey and I don't know what exactly your belief systems are, but I believe we're all here to learn. And we're all given certain are world wheels, sign up for certain lessons for you.

1 (18m 20s):
You signed up for lessons to say no to great boundaries to create your own value. What you're good at is not your life purpose. It's what you're not good at. And so for you to turn this around and say, you know what? I got to take care of me and then I can take care of others. So it's, I think really thinking about what you believe the law of attraction does that help at all? It does help. I know it's a big undertaking, but you can take baby steps. So say no to one person a week, give one hour, give one hour to yourself a week, but it really will make a difference in your life.

1 (19m 1s):
You'll be more balanced. And do you have daughters? I have a step daughter. Okay. So what you want to do is teach them how to take care of themselves and not get burnt out because they learned from their parents. Okay. Okay. That's the guilt I want to give you not Catholic guilt. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. And you've got a medium or big size dog that's passed now. Well, yes, yes I do. Okay. What kind of dog? It was

3 (19m 27s):
A, an Alaskan Husky.

1 (19m 29s):
Oh yeah. That's the right size. Cause I was getting that the bigger bulkier one. Yeah. So you didn't expect the dog or you didn't remember?

3 (19m 37s):
I wasn't expecting a dog now.

1 (19m 39s):
Isn't that cool? Yes.

3 (19m 41s):
I've only had two dogs in my life, so that's exciting. Yeah.

1 (19m 46s):
And they're here. So that's, what's really amazing too. What other, you have any questions for your father or anything else?

3 (19m 53s):
I do have some questions for my father, you know, and I don't know if they're appropriate or not, but I am curious as to why he didn't discuss what was going on in his life with us health wise,

1 (20m 7s):
You know, I kind of feel two things. One that there was shame. And the second of all is that I got earlier. He didn't want to be a burden. Okay. And I kind of feel that at times he felt like he was that way. And so adding that to the, the dynamics, I feel like he just was like, you know what, I'm kind of, he kind of made the decision to be done. This isn't for like suicide, but I don't feel like he prevented it. Does that resonate? Absolutely. Okay. So it's one of those things that they just choose not to take care of themselves. Is this a liver or kidney issue?

3 (20m 39s):
I wouldn't be surprised, but the state that they found them and they weren't able to hold up an autopsy. Okay. He's just showing me it

1 (20m 48s):
Shut down. I'm feeling like some lungs or heart, but it feel more like kidneys or liver kind of areas that he crossed

3 (20m 54s):
From. Okay. Okay.

1 (20m 57s):
And he just feels like it wasn't a bad thing. I mean, he's just like, you know what, I'm okay with this. And it's sad because we still want them around. Yeah. And, but I just kind of feel like he had probably had some depression and some felt a little bit overwhelmed and felt a little bit lost and that's the choices he made, but he feels like there was, there's a lot of love between the two of you. Like he would help you if it was fixing things or be there for you. I just feel like he couldn't always be there for himself.

3 (21m 25s):
That's true. And is he fully aware of the love that I have for him and the support and as well as the respect that I have for him? Yeah,

1 (21m 34s):
Absolutely. That's why he's hearing popped in right away. So one thing I have to say that your dad is telling me, so he didn't take care of himself and looked what happened. He didn't make himself a priority. Don't follow suit. Okay. And I don't mean that you're gonna die. What I'm saying is don't ignore who you are and what your needs are. Okay. And your dad just feels as if you guys talk about them, like you haven't forgotten them. You still talk about stories or things that's happened in your lives, in the past. Are you getting, did you get a tattoo? I did get a tattoo in honor of your dad.

3 (22m 6s):
No. Yeah. I got it before he passed, but I don't know that he knew about it.

1 (22m 11s):
Cause he's mentioning your tat

2 (22m 16s):
Get away with anything. They know what's going on.

1 (22m 22s):
He's talking about, does your husband drive fast? I guess he does. He's telling him to slow down.

3 (22m 27s):
Okay. I will let him know. Does your husband know you're doing this? Yes, he does.

1 (22m 34s):
Cause a lots of times they don't tell their spouses. So you can tell them that dad says you need to slow down. Okay. I will let him know

2 (22m 40s):

1 (22m 45s):
Cause I feel like he's a legend. He's those guys that go close behind you and, and go around you fast. And you're like, really? I just like, he's just driving too fast. I agree. I wanted to get a ticket. So what else do you want to ask your dad or the universe?

3 (23m 5s):
And so I am curious about if there's any guidance he wants to give me on his property that he's left.

1 (23m 14s):
The first thing I kind of get is don't make it a headache. Okay. So to me it's kind of like making it simple if you feel like keeping it as worth it. And are you wondering, is this like commercial property or property that can be developed?

3 (23m 27s):
No, it's a, it's a, it's a private property and it could be developed with a house and that's about it.

1 (23m 34s):
Okay. So I just, I keep getting the there's something about developing and I'm kind of feeling from him. It's I keep saying, make it easy. Don't don't be, I'm not attached to what you do. Like if getting rid of it and not having to build on it makes your life easier. Go for it. It also seems a little bit like is your husband in construction too? Or is there a relative and construction? Yes. Cause I kind of feel that, you know, do you want to work with this individual? Do you want to partner up or is it going to make it more work? Okay, cut. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does make sense. Okay. I just kind of feel like they're not interested in making it harder for you. And one of the ways that we kind of share this when they cross over is do you remember your first car?

1 (24m 15s):
Yeah. Do you know where it is now? That's how they care about this stuff here. Okay. Okay. We are all worried about honoring them and I feel like you honor your dad, but I'm also sensing there's reality here. I mean, we're in COVID, you know, we've got so much going on and I feel like your plate is really full. So your dad's just giving you permission to follow your gut and your heart. Okay.

3 (24m 37s):
Okay. And I mean, one other question for him is, and I don't even know if he can even say this, but there was a significant amount of money that he pulled out of an investment and I'm not able to trace it anywhere. And I'm really wondering if he buried it in the backyard.

2 (24m 55s):
I could see,

1 (24m 56s):
I am doing that. I don't, I don't think it's in his backyard, but I feel like it's still around. Would there have been anyone around that could have gotten to this money? I don't know. For sure. I don't know if there was a female that could have been more involved in this or knows about the money. Would that resonate? Possibly. Okay. Because I don't feel it's in the yard. I feel like he did take it out. I feel like someone has it. I thought maybe it's an a, what is it called? A, a post, a box of how safe deposit box, but I don't see it there, but I do see it was in someone else's hands. Was this like hundreds of thousands of dollars?

3 (25m 29s):
No, but it was was $41,000.

1 (25m 33s):
Okay. I was seeing 400,000, so 40,000. So I should have just said four, 400, but yeah. I feel like somebody may have done something with it. I don't think you're going to see it. Unfortunately. I hope you do, but I just feel like it's I see sticky hands. Okay. Sorry. But that's

3 (25m 51s):
Kind of what we were what we were thinking.

1 (25m 54s):
Okay. So validates for you. Yes, it does. Okay. And your dad says no, it's an under the mattress either.

2 (26m 2s):
Oh my gosh. Good. I'm so glad to hear that.

1 (26m 9s):
I feel like your dad's a little apologetic. Like I don't feel like he was thinking it through

3 (26m 14s):
It's okay. Please let him know. It's okay. It's it's okay

1 (26m 19s):
To be kind about it because money can really affect your relationships with family. So I'm, I'm glad that you've got some peace around it.

3 (26m 27s):
I do. Thank you. And is there, I'm just curious if there's anyone else who is coming through. Possibly my father-in-law Jim,

1 (26m 38s):
Was Jim really different than your dad? Somewhat. I get different personalities. Yes. Are different personalities for sure. Like, you know, I don't see them like being some, like, did your dad have a sense of humor? Yes. And he was very friendly. Okay. Where I feel like Jim is more quiet and reserved maybe. Yes. Okay. But also they're both very smart. Yes they are. And he's pointing his finger at his son telling him don't drive fast either. Great. Yeah. And does your husband kind of remind you of gym? Yes, he does. Because I feel like the Apple didn't fall far from the tree. That would be true.

1 (27m 19s):
And he says that you keep him straight in there. Like you keep him on track

2 (27m 25s):
And

1 (27m 25s):
He's, he was pleased that you're in his life and I'm also getting, I'm having trouble breathing or my heart or stroke around Jim. Does that resonate? Yes, it was his lungs, his lungs. And he just said, I feel like he waited too long, but with lung issues, that's kind of a normal, was he a smoker? No. I keep seeing something he's breathing in is affecting. So as Bestos or lung issues? I don't know. I can't confirm that for sure. Okay. Cause I just keep getting, you know, something early on in his life. Like my dad was exposed to asbestos and of course he smoked early in his life too, but I get, I get that lung issue that kind of erupted to having cancer and more problems.

1 (28m 7s):
Okay. And he said he had trouble walking near the end with legs or knees? Yes, he did. He says, I'm running now. I got my Nike's on. And you must wear Nike's. Cause he showed me the actual Nike brand, the swish. So if it's a family saver, he's got them on where they both meet potato kind of guys. Yes they are. Yeah. They're saying yuck to sushi.

2 (28m 36s):
Yeah.

1 (28m 40s):
That's what my dad says about my diet. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is sushi. Yeah. So they're kind of laughing about other after you're having, you know, beer and steak and potatoes and I feel like they're playing cards, but I don't feel like, I don't know if that's what they did here, but I just feel like they're like, yeah, we're hanging out. We're fine. Okay. That's great. That's great. Did someone have a pet snake? Yes, my brother. It's there with your dad.

2 (29m 6s):
I don't like any reptiles

1 (29m 10s):
And it may be your dad's way of bringing through your brother, like saying hi to him too. Okay. Yeah. We like to have his unusual things that come through because it really knows without a doubt. This is your dad and your father-in-law. Yes. Like yeah, they have the snake, they have the dog, you know, they they're eating steak and potatoes. That's great. That's great. And I'm getting, did one of them have, or was this a grandpa that had false teeth? I have a grandpa who he made dentures for living.

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Yes. He's here.

2 (29m 44s):
That's okay.

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Because I was seeing false teeth. Usually that means they have false teeth. So that's, that's an interesting career.

3 (29m 51s):
Yes it is. And he said

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That I don't feel like you came from money, but he was able to make an establish his own life. Does that resonate make sense? Yes, it does. Like, he worked really hard and tried to do something with his life and he's just kind of laughing about what we do with teeth right now. Like he would have been out of a job.

2 (30m 11s):
Oh yes.

1 (30m 15s):
So funny you drill them in now he's saying he goes, now I'm the magical tooth fairy. So if you, when you have grandkids, you can say the grandpa is the tooth fairy.

3 (30m 26s):
That's cute. Yeah.

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Who else did you want to hear?

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Gosh, there are so many of them. I was wondering if somebody by the name of Veronica is coming through,

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Is she like your generation? Yes, she is. She's talking about her lips or wearing the lipstick. Does that have any meaning or you use the lipstick or are you the lipstick girl? I'm not and not her either right now. Okay. I'm gonna see what she gets wishy mouthy. That she has a big mouth. Oh gosh, because she's showing me her. Go ahead. She did

3 (30m 55s):
Have a, an infectious smile.

1 (30m 57s):
Okay. She's given it to me because I'm seeing the lips, like someone just put beautiful lipstick on. So I was trying to do a metaphor. So she had a beautiful smile. Did people talk about her smile? They would talk about her laugh or laugh. Okay. I think this is how she's giving it to me, which is a little bit backwards, but also just dear hearted, I feel like big heart. Did you feel like sisters from another mother at times? Because I feel there's bond with her and a very close bond and she's not showing me how she passed, but I'm getting faster than they expected. Or she died unexpectedly. She's feeling like, okay, I'm getting confused with her. Is there a chance that someone was there an accident or something happened to her? Yeah.

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Okay. Cause I kept feeling like someone else did this to her or someone else because part of her death and she is flipping the world off. She's like, it wasn't my time. The way she comes through is very like analytical for me to really understand her death. And I feel like she was a smart lady. And how did she die? Because I'm getting to two kinds of interpretations for her. She was strangled by someone she knew. Yes. Okay. Because I kept getting by someone she knew, but at the same time, was she trying to get away from this person before this happened? Yes. And the people kept trying to tell her that this was not a good situation.

1 (32m 19s):
Yes. Okay. She feels like he, I feel like he, I'm assuming it's a male. I feel like he kept trying to persuade her that he could, she could trust him and obviously not. And I'm getting the, he was just a jealous, horrible person. Yes. Okay. She needs you to know that she was in fear during the time, but she was able cross over gently and that she wasn't scared at that time. And boy, he left a lot of DNA around didn't he? Yeah. I feel like this guy, just, this was raged as complete rage. And I don't know if they accused him of first degree murder, but it is. But I also feel like he just had this rage with her and the back of my head hurts too.

1 (32m 60s):
So I'm wondering if he, you know, like hit her, she hit the floor, hit a wall and this definitely newsworthy. And she's telling me the number three. So March or three years ago, does the three heavy meeting, was she 30? No. No. And so in Mart, so she passed away in April, 2019. Okay. Did something happen in March when she tried to leave him in March or it could have been April 3rd. She just gives me a three. So I'm gonna leave that with you to see if it makes sense. What do you want to ask her? Is the tattoo for her? It's not for her. The tattoo is actually was it's a toast to life and it is L'Chaim. So though I'm not Jewish.

1 (33m 40s):
I did this tattoo because of all of the people that have passed in my life and it's making that toast to life and to remember what life is about. So it is for them just in a different way. Yes. That makes sense. Cause they keep talking about it being about to

2 (33m 58s):
Like me, me, me, me, me,

1 (34m 2s):
Just because it's all for them. I just kind of feel that she was kind of individual. That was good. And just thought people were good and should have not trusted this person. And I'm smelling either alcohol or drugs around him. Yes, both. So, okay. So I'm just like I'm smelling and tasting. Like this guy was definitely high. I feel like he had tried to hurt her before or did hurt her before. And I keep seeing a key, like, I don't know if she still had his key or she, he still had her key or she should have had the keys changed or something. I just kind of get that key. Like she didn't play the safest she could have. Okay. Does that make sense then? It does make sense. Okay. I'm sorry. You've had so many losses. Thank you. I'm going to reach back out to you this week and just do a little phone to make sure all your questions are answered.

1 (34m 48s):
Is that okay? That's okay. Okay. How are you feeling when you walk away from this? What have you taken away? What are you feeling? I feel like I need to be paying attention more to myself and giving myself that time and that permission to take care of myself. And I think that should be our wrap up enchilada take care of yourself. I, you know, you had two individuals, especially your dad and Veronica that didn't put themselves as a priority and they're not here to talk about it. So these are, these are ways to think about make yourself a priority. It's okay. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Well, awesome. Thank you for joining us for spirited straight talk again. And if you like the show, please drop a line, leave us a review.

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